How to Withdraw from Opiates or tianeptine (antidepressant)

For an overview, just read the numbered steps in bold and get going to getting clean.

So here's how to do it.  Get your Maeng Da kratom, then when it is time for your next dose of opioid (oxycontin, fentanyl, heroin, methadone) or Stablon (tianeptine), follow these steps.  I got this method from a client at a methadone clinic where I was a counselor.  I busted him mis-using his methadone and he confessed that he had found a way to use all his take homes up and not go into withdrawal by using kratom afterwards.  Then, when i got myself in a bind with alcohol and opioids, and gabapentin, I discovered I could use kratom to come off all of them.  I stopped using alcohol for the first time in my life and now, I have a tolerance of no more than 4 drinks a day, whereas it used to be 24 or more drinks a day. 

1.  Take one or two teaspoons of Maeng da kratom instead of your opioid of choice.   Repeat at the same frequency you used to use your opioid of choice.

You may need to also take magnesium sulfate (epsom salts) 1/2 to 1 teaspoon to counter constipation caused by kratom and/or your previous opioid (do not exceed the daily upper dose  found on the carton).

Buy a large amount of kratom, Maeng Da, green pwoder, at least 8 ounces.  Kratom is an herb that has been used for everything from heroin to methadone withdrawal.  It may need to be taken as often as every two hours to avoid withdrawal symptoms.  www.wickedkratom.com seems to have some good prices.  You may have to take up to two teaspoons (9grams) per dose, depending on how much opioid you were using.  Taking more than this may cause nausea or vomiting, but you will still be in the clear as far as withdrawal.  So you may begin with half a teaspoon to test your tolerance, then wait 2 to 6 hours, depending on how often you used to dose an opioid, and dose another half teaspoon to 2 teaspoons.  Do this at least four days, using the smallest effective dose.

Now kratom tastes aweful if you can taste it, some people can't.  Strangely, when I first started using it, I couldn't' taste it so I used to just put the powder in my mouth and wash it down with some water.  After using for a while, I learned to taste it because with overuse it will produce nausea and it is awful, but there are two ways to deal with this.  The first is to buy some empty gelatin capsules, fill them with kratom, and take from 2 to 14 capsules at a time.  One teaspoon is 7 capsules, two teaspoons is 14 capsules.

Another way is to mix it with grapefruit juice which will mask most of the taste.  Fill a porcelain coffee cup with about 3 oz of grapefruit juice, swirl it round about 2 minutes, then drink it down.  Porcelain stops it from sticking and mixes it better than any other container I've used.

In any case, get 1 or 2 teaspoons of kratom in you, you won't have withdrawal.

2.  Reduce kratom usage by up to half a teaspoon per dose per day till you are down to 4.5 grams (1 teaspoon)  Do this for up to 2 weeks.

3.  You can come off kratom whenever you feel like it or continue using it if you like if it's legal where you are and you use no more than two teaspoons per day.  

When you come off, you will have some opioid-like withdrawal symptoms but if you have been through opioid withdrawal or alcohol withdrawal, this will be a cake-walk.  You may use an antihistamine like benadryl or doxylamine to come off but it's probably best to use nothing to avoid drug interactions.  Day one you may have a runny nose and some feelings of boredom but after that, you are totally free of opiates and kratom and you basically feel like your normal self.  If you hate that feeling, go to therapy or join some other kind of group that gives you comfort and meaning.  It doesn't have to be church or NA, nor therapy, any group that gives you meaning and comfort will do.  You might like sailing, join a sailing group.  If you need to relapse, relapse on kratom.  It will give you pain relief and for some people, a slight buzz, but it's a relative of the coffee plant, so it has lots of antioxidants and phytonutrients so it's not harming your body and could be helping it.  And the addiction to kratom doesn't compare to opiates or alcohol, when you come off, even cold turkey, you will have one or two slightly bad days, that's all.

This could take as few as two days (seriously, honestly) or as long as a month, depending on your dependency.  You may want to try drug counseling or group therapy during or after you get clean.  This is a good idea, however, many people will discourage you taking your health in your own hands because they are jealous or because they work for a methadone clinic, and are trained to keep you addicted to methadone and opiates so they can get paid.  It is good to have a doctor's monitoring, but you are free to cease using illegal drugs and to use kratom in most states.  So if you are brave enough to take on the benefits and consequences and you want to get clean, this route may help you.  I once worked at a methadone clinic and I got this formula from a tip from a methadone user who used to use all his take homes in a few days, then use kratom to block the withdrawal, so it probably works for methadone withdrawal too.

Also, i had a page with more steps but i deleted it because I realized adding more substances to the mix may confuse people or cause drug interactions.  If you feel you may need more advice email me at knowflow1@gmail.com or look me up on Facebook as Daryl Frank Seldon.  Good luck, hope you get clean, but if not, at least you will have a way to avoid withdrawal in between dosing and soon you will be able to come off addictive opioids that cause overdose deaths.

Kratom is not known to cause respiratory depression or overdose death even though it plugs your opioid receptors which is what makes it an awesome choice.  It is also less likely to cause an interaction if you relapse.

Disclaimers:  In not a doctor, get your doctor's advice and monitoring.  2.  Kratom is illegal in some states so obey all applicable laws.
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P.S. Background on tianeptine:

Tianeptine is a miracle nootropic or antidepressant for some people.  But let's be honest.  It is an addictive opioid, similar to dihydrocodeine if you take just a bit too much of it.  If you don't already know this, look it up.

Some of us, with pain issues or addiction issues, are bound to end up taking too much, eventually putting us in the position of needing to withdraw from it.

Personally, after about a month of overuse, I got a chest cold, which may have been coincidental.  But, I decided it could be a case of something like talcosis, when the small amount of inert talcum powder (baby powder) starts to build up in your lungs and gives you something like a chest cold.  I also noticed a sticky substance in my sweat.  Most likely, ingredients that are not normally dangerous, but in the context of drug over-use, even drinking too much water with your drugs could produce dangerous consequences.  So it was time to get off.

Maybe I should mention the benefits less I come off a bit 'Refer Madness".  It banishes depression and anxiety and encourages bonding at higher doses.  Personally, I was working with children, brutal Machiavellian creatures, relentlessly attacking each other and adult caretakers, and a bit of a softer side could help me to not take their betrayals so personally and instead do only what advanced their cause.  I noticed tianeptine was best thing to encourage bonding.  I didn't suspend anyone, instead i talked to them and tried to find out what was the problem and remedy it.  I was overall more socially cooperative with everyone, and less competition and sex driven.  These are known effects of opioids.  Tianeptine is not a traditional opioid and it's mu-opioid agonism is a new finding, as it has been marketed as a serotonin reputake enhancer.  Of course, several opioids affect serotonin so it may in the end prove not to be different than other opioids.

Anyway, when I tried to come off it, I discovered it was like other opioids indeed.  First my feet started to burn like they were roasting over an open flame.  Then my kidneys started to hurt, or my lower back, a part of my body I'm normally not aware exists, despite having fibromyalgia.  Then hot and cold flashes alternating from minute to minute.  One second I'm burning up, throw off the covers, laying there nearly naked, next second freezing and covering up.  Bad.  Strangely, the worst symptom was an unrelenting cough, so itchy, I would have been puking up everything in my stomach if I hadn't coincidentally had some remedies.  I used the formula above.